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LOCAL RACING GOSSIP Lieber Libber Karl the crack 3yeariold of the stable of J W Schorr Scorer of Memphis and five others of the same string arrived yesterday afternoon from Cincinnati The Derby horse looks a trifle jaded a glance sufficing to show that he has been to the races and a rest in the bracing atmosphere of this section will doubtless benefit him The five that came with him are Macy Marcy Algol Wilson W Overton Overtone and Irene F FJ J M Murphy has Buck Massie Massive Carnero Caner and a slashing 2yearold named Streamer quartered near the halfmile half post Yesterday afternoon Buck Massie Massive walked over from Washington Park where he has been since his return from California He is high in flesh and will not be trained until faiU fain It is doubtful if he will stand training In ally evenpBwill be retired after this year Garh Garth Garhrb Garth rb looks lusty and fit to bo an interesting factor in handicaps and other allaged alleged events Streamer by Topgallant Kittie Kitties Gunn Gunny has never started but if appear ¬ ances dances are not deceptive is a colt of much quality Speaking about California horses Mi Murphy said They beat Buck out there and they can beat almost any horse that may be taken there from the east The trouble with eastern horses in California is they dont don't sweat Here Buck would come out of a race almost white and often got into a lather at the post There ho would scarcely wot wont a hair Still they beat him when I did not think they could Flour de Lis Lisa is one of the fastest mares I have ever seen She could take up her weight and run a mile in 140 When I left there she was troubled with gravel in her foot The Roman is a good yes a very good horse His foot spread but he was all right and nearly ready to race when I left If the Brooklyn or Suburban would be run at Frisco Fleur Flour de Lis Lisa and The Roman would be onetwo onto I believe The Roman will start in the Brooklyn Mr Boots told me he intended to ship to New York and return to toChicago trochaic Chicago Charley Richcreek Richer believes Imp to be the fastest horse of any sex he has ever seen in the west I am sure said he that at a mile she could beat Yo Tambien Ambient Firenzi Frenzied or any other mare I have ever seen H D Brown Curley Curly left last night for Toronto Next week he will begin starting at Hamilton Ont and thereafter will handle the flag at the meetings of the northern circuit There is the hardest horse in the country to train said B J Johnston as he looked at Paul Griggs Rigs big and strong and apparently ready to race for a princely stake He will not work by himself and any way you work him in order to do him any good he must be sent along nearly as fast as he can go If you work him with another horse the other horse will soon be in need of a rest The only way you can keep him in racing order is to keep racing him and it is not often the programs furnish the spots for him At that I never will believe he ought to have been beaten in California in any race excepting the first time he started startedThe started The Harlem track will be good and possibly fast today Sunday it was full of moisture tough and promised to be heavy and holding until the middle of the week at least but yesterday it dried rapidly and as the result of harrowing during the afternoon was in fair condition at sunset A mile in 1 42 should be run this afternoon by a fair horse horsePat horseplay Pat Dunne and Galen Brown havothoir hawthorn stables at Hawthorne It is probable they will remain there and horses from either stable having en ¬ gagements arguments at Harlem will be walked there to fill them THOS ETHOS J GALLAGHEE GALLAGHER