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ENGLISH VETERANS STILL TRAINING The veteran English trainer William Day is the oldest owner and trainer of a Two Thousand Guineas winner but while Alfred had the mount in the latter on Promised Land in 1859 1dnr William as the veteran was for years familiarly termed rode him when he was fourth at Epsom to Musjid The oldest living jockey therefore to ride a Two Thou ¬ sand Guineas winner is John Osborne In 1857 he won it for the late Lord Zetland on Vedette and has since piloted five others viz Pretender 1SG9 Both well 1S71 Prince Charlie 1S72 Camballo 1S75 and Ayrshire 1SSS