Forum May Be Overrated: Supposed Whitney Crack Fails To Impress Observers At Saratoga.; Wins Race from Ordinary Opposition, but Not Impressively--Sam Hildreth Saddles His First Winner Following His Return to America., Daily Racing Form, 1913-08-29


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FORUM MAY BE OVERRATED SUPPOSED WHITNEY CRACK FAILS TO IM ¬ PRESS OBSERVERS AT SARATOGA SARATOGAWins Wins Race from Ordinary Opposition but Not NotImpressively Impressively Sam Hildreth Saddles His First FirstWinner Winner Following His Return to America Saraoga N Y August 28 Harry Payne Whit Jiey s highly touted twoyearold Forum had another chance to show his real worth iu the closing dash today and while he won it was uot in the manner expected and he did not impress the public as being of Futurity calibre He was opposed to an ordinary lot of twoyearolds which caused him to rule an uddtuii choice for the race He took the lead at the end of the first quarter and remained there but during the stretch racing he was under the hardest kind of a drive aud at one time Cliff Field appeared to have him beaten lie drew out again at the end to win by a comfortable margin marginThe The Irish steeplechaser Post Boy made his debut in America today when he carried the colors of Alex Smith Cochraii to victory in the steeplechase He was the medium of a plunge after having reced ¬ ed to 20 to 1 iu the betting that forced his price to 7 to 1 When the race took place Allen kcwt him close up to the pacemaker Knniskillcn for the first mile Then Post Boy took the lead and it was un ea y matter for him to draw out aud win iu a canter canterThe The chief event of the day was the Amsterdam Stakes iji which Llla Bryson led all the way aud won easily She was also the medium of staunch support and her victory hurt the layers consider ¬ ably Although it was a selling race Albert Simons failed to bid her up it being the first occasion in iie time that he lias not boosted a Carman horse iu a selling race Donald Macdonald which was thought to have hopelessly broken down at the be ¬ ginning of the meeting started in this race and was second all the way Martlu gave the horse a rather easy race probably being afraid that he might again break down downThe The tabulated history of the Amsterdam Stakes is as follows Year Winner AWt Jockey Val Timu 1001 First Whip 4111 Bullman 1780 140 k 1002 Clonmell 3 01 Shea 2135 142 142JJO JJO Virgin Soil OO II Callaban 2300 142 1 1 De Kcszke 5 104 Ilildcbrand 2785142 105 Canteen 4 00 W Knapp 2200 139 1900 Right Koynl 4 105 Scwell 1045 112 1007 Grapple 5 OG Goldstein 1005 130 1008 Purslane 4 10G Musgrave 425 141 3 00 Nimbus 4 10S C Grand 805138 1010 Mary Davis 4 00 Estep 1550 13 13PM3 PM3 Klla Bryson 0 105 J McTagt S05 130 130Distance Distance one mile and seventy yards in 1001 No racing in 1011 and 1012 1012Sam Sam HHdreth saddled his first winner for August Uelmout following his return from France when Violet Kay was returned the winner of the opening dash for which she was well supH rted Some un ¬ known person bid her up and the stable had to pay 505 to retain her August Belmont has declined to permit his colt Kock View to start in the proposed special race with Cock o the Walk next Monday He also de ¬ clined to state his reasons reasonsThe The twoyearold Vega is now the property of John O Talbott who purchased her at private sale from II P Whitney last evening and she ran iu his name and colors today todayK K I Miller will ship Water Welles Aviator Aeroplane and two twoyearolds to Timonium on Sunday for the meeting at that place Mike Kelly has already shipped Deduction and several Other horses lo Timonium TimoniumThe The entries for the Syracuse races closed today and quite a good list was secured but Herman Conklin stated that the full number of entries made will not be known for a day or two as he expects to Hud some besides those he got here when he re ¬ turns to New York this evenintr evenintrThe The condition books for the Inaugural meeting of the Dorval Park Jockey Club which will be held at the new track in Montreal September 15 to 20 arrived here today

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