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Latest Derby Field Forecast LOUISVILLE Ky May 12 The latest forecast as to the probable starters in the Kentucky Derby follows followsProbable Probable Horse Wgt Jockey Owner Trainer Odds OddsBostonian Bostonian 126 A Abel JI P Whitney F Hopkins 32 32Whiskery Whiskery 126 L Fator H P Whitney F Hopkins 32 32Rip Rip Rap 126 S ODonnellSage Stable M Hirsch 6 6Black Black Panther 126 K EricksonW J Salmon T J Healy 15 15Saxon Saxon 126 G Ellis Greentree Stable C Phillips 12 12Bewithus Bewithus 126 A Johnson Idle Hour Farm Stable H J Thompson 20 20Buddy Buddy Bauer 126 G Johnson Idle Honr Farm Stable H J Thompson 20 20Rolled Rolled Stocking 126 W Pool J W Parrish C C Van Meter 15 15Fred Fred Jr 126 3f Burger S W Grant F A Stevens 25 25Osmand Osmand 126 E Sande J E Widener P Coyne 8 8Kiev Kiev 126 M Garner J E Widener P Coyne 8 8Royal Royal Julian 126 W Lilley W H Whitehouse L Johnson 100 100Jock Jock 128 E AmbroseE B McLean J F Schorr 30 30War War Eagle 126 C Lang E B McLean J F Schorr 30 30Scapa Scapa Flow 126 F ColtilettiW M Jeffords S Harlan 6 6Hydromel Hydromel 126 W Garner J IT Camden D E Stewart 20 20My My Son 126 S Griffin Crescent Stable J S Middleton100 FINAL PRELIMINARY TRIALS FOR THE DERBY Bostonian and Whiskery Cynosure of All Eyes at Churchill Downs Both in Fine Condition Scapa Flow Pleases PleasesTrainer Trainer War Eagle Does Well Fair FairStar Star Definitely Oat of Big Race LOUISVILLE Kyf May 12 Churchill Downs attracted an immense gallery Thursday morning of turfites and horsemen to witness final preliminary trials by the most potential candidates that will strive for the rich prize and honor that goes with a victory in the fiftythird renewal of Kentuckys famed racing epic the Kentucky Derby Heavy clouds cold atmosphere and a heavilycushioned track somewhat militated against outstanding fast performances but none of the participants are in need of more than the usual limbering up exercise for they are air in the pink of condition Still some of the workouts were meritorious and attracted more than usual favorable comment commentThe The cynosure of all observers were the Harry Payne Whitney pair Bostonian and Whiskery respective victor and third in the recently run Preakness Stakes They will again be the colorbearers of the Harry Payne Whitney establishment establishmentBostonians Bostonians work was particularly impres ¬ sive not that his trial of a mile and a quarter the Derby distance in 20975 was anything out of the ordinary but because of the ease and willingness with which he went about his task He was ridden by H Shillick and had up his Derby impost Beginning from the Derby start he traversed the first quarter in 24 the half mile in 493 the threequarters in 1 15 and the mile in 1 42 At no time was the Preakness winner asked for his best speed and he was eased the final quarter to conclude his trial in 2 09 09WHISKERY WHISKERY TINDER RESTRAINT RESTRAINTWhiskery Whiskery was also kept under restraint throughout the mile and a quarter trial and Shillick who also handled him kept the colt at an even pace throughout as follows quarter 2G half mile 52Vs threequarters 11S and the mile in 1 45 45Trainer Trainer Scott Harlan also took advantage of the occasion to give Scapa Flow a mile and a quarter trial The big son of Man o War performed in handy style and fully to the satisfaction of his trainer trainerSaxon Saxon which will carry the Greentree Sta ¬ ble colors in the Derby acted a bit unruly and required the substitution of Shillick for Barnett before he could be made to work his mile trial Barnett could only get him to race half a mile in 57 Under Shillick he raced a mile well in hand in 145V and cantered out an additiona quarter to complete the mile and a quarter in 2 1G 1GEdward Edward B McLeans War Eagle which at times shows brilliant efforts and at other times races disappointingly is still a doubt ¬ ful quantity as a possible sUirter in the Ken ¬ tucky Derby He worked an impressive mile and a quarter in 203 sharing with Bos ¬ tonian the honors of the morning His frac Continued on twentieth page FINAL DERBY TRIALS Continued from first page tions were particularly fast in the early stages as follows 24 4S 115 142 He displayed little fatigue after the trial and it is more than likely that Trainer J Schorr will decide to send him to the post postThe The above quintet of Derby eligibles were the only easterners that indulged in exercise during the morning The western represent ¬ atives to work included J N Camdens Hydromel There was much interest in his appearance There has been a strong doubt jf he will be among the probable ones at the barrier on account of the recent attack of fever he suffered sufferedMax Max Hirsch trainer of the Sage Stables Derby hope Rip Rap returned from a hurried visit to the breeding section where he visited several farms He inspected the stock of some of IMS employers and several of his own mares Late Thursday another Kentucky Derby starter was announced It is the Crescent Stables My Son which will be ridden by S Griffin The colt worked impressively and owner Mrs H E Crossiaiit decided that he would render a good account of himself in the race Trainer Stuart gave him a mile gallop and lie went about it as if he had recovered fully He was paced in the first halfmile by Euphrasia He concluded the mile in 142 His starting in the Derby will be determined by what effects he shows from his trial this morning Another that may be among the starters is J C Milams Mr Kirkwood He was worked a mile in 1 42M 42MThe The failure of jockey Kummer to ride Whiskery in the Derby has caused trainer Kowe to seek a substitute for him and he will probably secure the services of Laverne Fator to ride If possible Mr Rowe will be here to saddle the Whitney colts other Avise that function will be performed by Fred Hopkins who brought the Whitney band here hereJockey Jockey Frank Coltiletti who will ride Scapa Flow is expected to arrive in Louis ville Friday Owner W M Jeffords who is now on a visit to Lexington will arrive Friday to witness his colt perform performJ J E Widener has about decided to send Osmand and Kiev to the post in the Derby Earl Sande will have the mount on the former and M Garner will pilot Kiev KievWilliam William DuPonts Fair Star is definitely out of the Kentucky Derby Her trainer an ¬ nounced Thursday that he would reserve her for the running of the Kentucky Oaks which will be run later during the meeting here hereTrainer Trainer T J I Icaley who will saddle W J Salmons Black Panther is due to arrive Fri day morning from Baltimore The owner is bringing a big party of friends to watch his colt perform