Americans and the English Derby: Only Messrs. Vanderbilt and Belmont Have Chances to Compete, Daily Racing Form, 1907-12-27


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AMERICANS AND THEENGLISH DERBY. i Only Messrs. Vanderbilt and Belmont Have Chances to Compete. Outside of Mr. W. IC. Vandcrbilts French, colt, Sea Sick II., and Mr. August Belmonts pair, American turfmen have no visible chances to compete for the Epsom Derby of 100S. Sea Sick II. hasnt raced in England, but has been highly tried and is doing well in France. Mr. Vanderbilt bought him after his nomination for the Epsom Derby from M. Gaston Dreyfus, who also nominated the chestnut colt, Mantavalle, by St. Damicn Marcia, for the English classic. The Belmont pair eligible are: Norman III., 1. c, by Octagon Nineveh. Crossbar, b. c. by Octagon Lucy Cross. Both are in England and in Watsons stable. Norman III. is the letter of the two. He ran nine races in England this year and won twice., beating Indian Bunner for the Exeter Stakes at Newmarket his best race and winning the Moles-ley Plate at Hurst Park not a "great performance. Norman III. was unplaced behind Rhodora and Perrier for the Dewhurst Plate, third behind French Partridge and Primer for the Criterion Stakes, third in the Chesterfield Stakes, behind Sir Archibald and Orphah, and fourth in the Ascot Biennial Stakes, which was won by White Eagle. This is not considered to be Derby form by the English critics. Crossbar had more racing than Norman HI., and won but once in eleven starts. That was after a dead heat with Goemon in the cheap Brookside Plate at Brighton. Ho was second among a poor lot in the Wilton Plate at Windsor in August and. unplaced nine times. Crossbar, if he is a Derby contender or starter, will surprise English racing folks. Mr. Belmont also has this pair among the nominations for the Two Thousand- Guineas and St. Leger, the only Americans eligible for, the latter event. To the Two Thousand Guineas also the Keene three are eligible, and Harry Payne Whitneys Jersey Lightning, Stainina, Burgher and. Bar None arc also among the nominations for the Two Thousand Guineas. Mr. James B. Kcencs nominations for the Derby, three in number, were among the ones to turn out badly, or at least prove somewhat disappointing in a tremendous turf season for that stable. These nominations were Masque, by Disguise Ithodesia; Peter Quince, by Commando Fair Vision and Incognito, by Disguise Hampton Belle. Two of these have done but little and the other. Masque, was sold at a recent weeding out of the Keene stable. He is now owned by J. L. McGinnis. Horsemen who have seen him recently are enthusiastic over his three-year-old chances and report a remarkable improvement in him. Still this does not necessarily mean that he is of Derby quality and Mr. Keene would scarcely have let him go. if he had thought him a possibility. Mr. II. P. Whitneys nominations were Burgher, by Hamburg Hurly Burly; Angelus, the brown colt by Sandringham Vespers, now racing at New Orleans and the filly by Hamburg Daisy F., known as Jersey Lightning. Clarence II. Mackay has a nomination in Car-rollton, a colt by Florizel II. Ballantrae, which ran a race or two in the Newcastle Stables colors at the end of the season, but is certain not to be sent to England. John E. Madden has two nominations in the brown colt by Plaudit Imp, Call Boy, and the bay colt by Plaudit Unsightly, King James. Both are American fixtures.

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