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TALK FROM TRAINER MATT ALLEN. Much Pleased with Bradys Yearling Otogo Has Jockey Garner for Next Year. Lexington, Ky., December 7. Matt Allen, the veteran trainer of the stable of James B. Brady, arrived here from Nashville last night with two promising yearlings, rfnd, lost ono of them, the full-brother to Peter Sterling, by Lord Estcrllng Lu-creco, before Ik? could lie taken from the car. The other is the chestnut colt by Ornus Irksome, of which such good reports have been coming from Nashville since the middle of September, when Jie is said to have shown an eighth in 11 seconds and later a quarter in better than 20 seconds. This colt is to be sent on to New York next week along with several polo ponies belonging to Foxhall Keene, which have been in training at Mr. Keenes place adjoining Castleton Stud. They are to be1 used in England, and will be shipped from New York within a fortnight to their new quarters- at Melton Mowbray. "The brother to Peter Sterling," said Mr. Allen to Dally Racing Form, "I bought from Sam Parmer and Sandy Brown for my son. I did not make up my mind to take him until after I had purchased the other colt from J. W. Russwurm, the secretary at Cumberland Park. He was a nice looking light chestnut, with an attractive way of. going one of those fellows that turns his head sideways and snorts as he canters along so I figured that I might as well ship two as one, and just before I I was ready to load Uie other colt I gave my check for ,000 and put him on the car. He was all right when we left Nashville, but before we got to Louisville he was a sick horse. As soon as I got here I sent for a veterinary, and: he said the trouble was spinal meningitis. He died in the" yards before we could get him out of the car. "The other colt I bought for Mr. Brady and myself and paid 2,500 for him. He is one of the most stylish horses under saddle that I ever saw and in many respects he resembles Oiseau. I am satisfied that I have a bargain in him. Russwurm priced him to me some three weeks ago and after I got to Nashville, I heard that .he had been offered considerably, more for him than I paid. Lee Christy told me that there are five colts in the lot that he is training for Fred- Cook at Cumberland Park that could not be bought, for . 0,000 each and after I bought this Ornns colt, he said to me: Mr. Allen, you certainly have, got . the best colt, on this track. If he was mine I would not trade him for anyone I am handling. If there is a colt here that can, run a quarter through this stretch in .22, Jts the Ornus colt. Johnny Walters, who trains, the Heridrie horses, told me practically the same thing. "I. would have been down this way-sooner, but I wanted to close a deal with John A. Drake , for tue services of jockey Garner next year, and I had to wait over in New York a week longer than I expected. Yes, we have Garner for next year. We pay ,000 and give the boy his winning and losing mounts. Garner will not ride .this winter. He will report to me about February 1 and will work in the stable until the Benning meeting opens. I expect to send him down there to get In condition for the opening at Aqueduct. Drake has a contract on him until ho is of age. He is eighteen now and weighs only ninety-five pounds. He wanted to ride this winter, but Drake has been punishing him and put his foot flatly down upon the proposition. Then Willie McKinney came along with a story about a man nampd Lawrence wanting him for the winter at Los Angeles, but Drake said to him: No McKinneys or Lawrences get their hands on you. You have been your own boss for a while and a fine mess you are about to make of it. Now, Ive mapped out a program for you. You are going to take a gun and go out there in Iowa and do a little hunting until Mr. Allen gets ready for you, and then you are coining back east and ride only what he tells yon to ride until the end of next year. Then the following year I may want you again myself. Drake, you know, is thinking of getting together another stable for 1909. Gamer is a good rider and lie will have a long life in the saddle if he takes care of himself. He is not the sort that is apt to grow big rapidly. "He has a little" brother that knows how to do a lot of tilings on a horses back, but I am afraid he will be a long time getting big enough to ride. New fault, I know, but it is a fact. He only weighs sixty pounds and it looks like he wont pick up much more weight or get any longer in the legs very soon. "The jockey problem out east has come to be a serious one. If a man hasnt got a good boy and has got good horses, he is just as much up against it as if he. had bad horses. It got so last season that when you engaged a good boy you were never certain, even on the day of the race, whether you had him or not. They would make so many conditional engagements ahead that it was hard to figure out just where, you stood until you were told that the boy could not ride "or you saw hitu ou the horse."