Defends American Thoroughbreds: Mr. Madden Cites Instances to Prove Our Horses Stay as Well as Any, Daily Racing Form, 1916-01-23

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DEFENDS AMERICAN THOROUGHBREDS. Mr. Madden Cites Instances to Prove Our Horses Stay as Well as Any. Lexington. Ky.. January 22. — John E. Madden, the master of Hamburg Place, takes issue with his friend, R. J. Hancock, Jr.. of the Ellerslie Stud, coaceralag the staying qualities of the American thoroughbreds in the following letter, which was pre ..lied at his farm and given out here today: "What Mr. R. J. Hancock. Jr., recently wrote in the public press about the performances of American horses in England is misleading. He writes as though we had sent no stayers to England since the days of Carole. Iroquois and Foxhall. Now, as 1 sold the horses which I am going to mention. I feel that I am justified in calling attention t.i the fact hat KilnKirnook. which was not the best of his year in this country, won for the late Mr. W. C. Whitney, who purchased him from me, the I. mgest Hat race in England, namely, the Alexandra Plate at Ascot, nearly three miles, and this per-!• : name was all tin- more remarkable from the standpoint of stamina becaase the son of Sir Dixon had only the day before run that great horse Santoi to a length for the Ascot old Cap, the greatest weight for-age in England, two miles and a half. In addition to this. Kilmarnock went to France the same autumn and won the 0,000 Irix tin Conseil Municipal, one mile and a half, beating the best horses in France, including Ea Camargo. while Merry Gal and several other English hordes were unplaced. "Day id Garrick. sold by me to the late Mr. Pierre Lorillard. won the Chester Cup. two miles ami a smarter, and the son of Hanover thus continued the staying form which he had previously shewn in this country when he yv.m the Annual Champion, also two miles and a quarter. Neither Kilmarnock nor David Garrick was from the male line Which Mr. Hancock cites as the only one quali lied to get stayers, and the lines which produced Kilmarnock and David Garrick are still available. "Aaathex performance which should lie remembered was the victory of Cap and Rolls in the English inks. Her sire. Domino, has strains in his i»edigree which bar him and his progeny from the English Stud Book, but his daughter won the Oaks, one mile and a half, in a canter from the liest English fillies. If an English filly had come to America and lieaten us that way, we would never hear the last of it. "American blood has proved no bar to classic -mi ess abroad. Mr. Dnryea won the Derby of 1!14 with a horse whose family is distinctively American and cannot be traced to the English Stuil Rook. Mr Crokcr won two Elifljsh .!-;:,s lOvs Derby and Rlmdorns One ThUsnnil Oiiihefis v*ifn the produce of a mare whose pedigree has strains which are now barred from the English Stud Book. "No one values English thoroughbred blood more than do the American breeders, but it must be remembered that the change of climate and Change ..f mares have Contributed to the success of man] an imported stallion which might have failed in his own eoaatry. It must also l e remembered that we have the same blood in this country that is in England, with the important advantage of larger and tietter fieids to raise our stock. "Our American thoroughbreds today possess more speed and more stamina than in the days of the horses mentioned by Mr. Hancock. The pace tells the story. Here are some significant figures: Iroquois, 18S3. After returning to U. S. A. Monmouth Talk, 1 1-2 miles; track fast — Horse. Age. Wt. Fin. George Kinnev " ■. 112 1 Bole 5 127 2 Iroquois 5 127 li Monitor 7 125 Fnp. Miss Woodford :. 107 Lnp. Time. 2:20. Time of each quarter: 20. 20. 27. 24%, 20/,. 20. Time by quarter: 20. .".2. 1:1!. 1:42*4, 2:10 2::!0. Monmouth Park, 1 1-2 miles — Horse. Age. Wt. Fin. Role 5 1U7 1 George Kinney .! 11J 2 Monitor 7 12."i .! Drake Carter 2 109 lnp. Iroquois ." 127 lnp. Time. 2:36 z. Time, of each quarter. SOVs, 2onj. 27%, 25, 2-V-|. 25",. Time by quarler: 20... .i24, 1:20, 1:45, 2:10%, 2:3CM:. Baltimore. 1 5-S miles — Horse. Age. Wt. Fin. Miss Woodford :: 10! I George Kinney .! 110 2 Iroquois 5 127 3 Drake Carter :i 107 Lnp. Time. 2:57. Fiaetimial time not given. "I expect to see the American thoroughbred In. Id his own the coming season, and when the racing of 1910 is over, the American thoroughbred will be more appreciated than he is today. "Mr. Hancock appears to think that performances will make American bMOd-ltoea eligible to the English Stud Rook. This is a a joke. Some Americad thoroughbred strains are now no more eligible to the English Stud Rook than the Haucook and Madden family are to Rurkes Peerage."


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