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CONNORS CORNER By Chuck Connors BELMONT PARK Elmont L I N Y May 4 Year by year the tub thumpers for the Derby are running out of subjects arid angles to narp on xn latest much written about topic that went by the boards was when the gray Deter ¬ mine won the big event Saturday Up to that time the boys made much of the moss grown fact that no gray thoroughbred had accounted for the Run for the Roses Native Dancer almost did it last year but it remained for Determine to succeed where he failed Previously it was supposed that a Futurity ictory put the jinx on a Derby contestant Citation shat ¬ tered that Fillies also were believed to have two strikes on them in a Derby field Regret upset that Omar Khayyam was the first and thus far the only oreign thoroughbred to humble the home product Maybe Turnto would have duplicated the feat of the namesake of the tentmaker if he had not gone wrong Who knows In that event the ballyhoo artists would still have had the wearisome gray horse theme to pound on their typewriters typewritersA A A A AAs As for the Futurity and the Derby there were several winners of the juvenile classic who probably would have triumphed in the rose run Two that flash into mind im ¬ mediately are Man o War and Colin As threeyearolds they swept the boards suf ¬ fering nary a defeat The FuturityBel mont double has been accomplished several times by Colin Man o War Pavot Citation and Native Dancer The first to account for both events was the invincible Colin owned by James R Keene in 190708 The Bel moht is down for decision on the final day of this meeting June 12 and Porterhouse who won the Futurity last fall is named for it The Futurity was first run in 1888 and the Belmont in 1867 Colin also was the first to register in the Futurity Withers and Belmont Man o War repeated in 191920 Porterhouse is a possibility but a remote one He is eligible for the Withers but it is believed he will pass up that stake for a softer race prior to the Belmont BelmontA A A A AIt It looks like weve been all wrong on turf races over the years when we said that the last was decided at Sheepshead Bay with Hampton Court the winner Mike Sirico the old photographer showed up yesterday with a picture taken at Aqueduct on June 26 1936 This picture shows Espinaca owned by Mrs Hirsch Jacobs prevailing over Capstan Galaband Jolly Saint and Silence HI at the end of a mile and three sixteenths The time was 201 The race was run over the hurdle course with the hurdles removed The event was the first and last attempted And in discussing the matter yesterday Jacobs said that he bad forgotten all about the event until he gazed at the picture Anyway the race is in the Finis to Another Derby Topic Determine First Gray to Score Citation Ended Futurity Jinx Jinxbook book Joe Donohue returned from Louis ¬ ville where he witnessed the Derby in ¬ spected the stallion High Bandit and passed up a flock of mint juleps Mrs Henry Carnegie Phipps who maintains the pretentious Wheatley Stable braved the elements yesterday and witnessed her homebred Dark Ruler prevail over some well regarded juveniles That was the colts first start and through the slop he showed up impressively impressivelyA A A A ATrainer Trainer Bobby Dotter reported that Landlocked owned by James Cox Brady will pass up the Metropolitan and likely the Suburban The Widener winner was returned from Garden State over the week end and his condition prompted Dotter to prescribe a good long rest for events later in the summer and fall He also reported that Artismo is doing nicely and would be a starter in the Withers with Dave Gorman doing the riding Vernon G Cardy the Canadian hotel man who has a band of steeplechasers in training here was among those present Monday to witness his im ¬ portation Cammell Laird start in the steeplechase offering The outlander fell during the running Mrs C Oliver Iselin will sail for an extended holiday in Europe on Wednesday but will be back for the latter part of the Saratoga Springs meet ¬ ing Mrs R A Firestone arrived from Miami today and will be a clubhouse regu ¬ lar for the balance of the meeting Her juvenile Sun Tan is regarded as one of the most promising developments of the Trainer George Odom reported that Eternal Will owned by Mrs Wallace Gil roy and who was stricken with a myster ¬ ious ailment at Saratoga Springs last year is back in training He was recently galloped a couple of times and shows no ill effects from the ailment Trainer Ed ¬ die Hayward with the Kentucky division of the Cain Hoy Stable returned from Louis ¬ ville and promised to finish out the season He took over the training of the division that was here in charge of his assistant Frank Coltiletti Harry Fink the Mi amian showed up yesterday He has a draft ofvhorses in training hereLaf fango owned by the Trio Stable and who was given several days rest from training is back at his chores according to advices from Aqueduct Mrs Wallace Gilroys Slim is back in training The animal was gelded recently Frank Hicks reported the arrival of the filly Ellens Hope to place in training trainingA A A A AJohn John William Hirsch the son of the vet ¬ eran trainer Hirsch has renounced col ¬ lege and plans a career as a trainer He reported to his father yesterday at Jamaica and started on the lowest rung to learn the rudiments of his chosen vocation The training schedule was stepped up this morning following the fog which prevailed on Monday Small Favor and Fisherman owned by C V Whitney were back at Bel ¬ mont Park this morning from Louisville Fisherman is a Preakness eligible The Florida contingent displayed a strong interest in the Florida primary for gover ¬ nor and the majority predicted that a run off would be called for later in the month The candidates are Johns Collins and Old ham The announcement to return De ¬ termine to the West Coast was a disap ¬ pointment to many New Yorkers who had made plans over the week end to attend the Preakness which is down for decision on May 22