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Between Races I By Oscar Otis L Irish Apprentice Bold Rulers Lad Dubliner Carving Yankee Turf Career UCLA Student Galloping Round Table TableCHURCHILL CHURCHILL DOWNS Louisville Ky April 30 Tommy Quinn exercise boy for Bold Ruler is creating so far as we know a Derby precedent by full fledged graduate of the Irish apprentice school to gallop a solid Kentucky Derby contender and if Bold Ruler wins on Satur ¬ day that happy event to many if not all folks will mark to the day the second anniversary of the arrival of Irish Quinn from Rathcoole in County Dublin By way of explanation we might mention that the Irish school is the system in the Emerald Isle whereby a bbv of likely talents hires himself out to a horsemantrainer at no wages for a fiveyear period The only money he obtains is that which the owner might give him for pocket change plus board and clothing In return for the services the owner agrees to teach a lad the horse business and endeavors to make a rider out of him If the boy fails in the saddle the boy has a respected profession that of a groom or stable lad From such humble beginning have come some of the great trainers of Ireland to name but one Paddy Prendergast PrendergastQuinn Quinn admits he was no great shucks as rider in Ireland and trying his luck in England fared little better The wedding of his brother in New York brought him to America for the first time and after serving as best man he decided to look around at this booming nation called the United States He liked what he saw boldly walked into the barn of Mr Fitz asked for a job and on the strength of his background obtained it Ive never seen a horse in Europe quite as good as Bold Ruler Quinn tells us usThey They Run All the Way Here HereAnd And Im not being prejudiced when I say this For they run all the way here and a mile and a quarter test like your Kentucky Derby is a far more testing run than most Europeans would dream They run fast the first part of it and still expect a horse to keep going through the stretch While the fundamentals of good training are about the same in this country as in Europe I for one am willing to agree that contrary to what many Americans have been led to believe i e that the English classics are the most severe tests in the world that a race like the Kentucky Derby is maybe even greater because it tests speed as well as stamina and the stamina test coming after a lot of early speed s sQuinn Quinn who weighs in at 109 to 110 hopes to be able to get a chance to ride in New York after the Derby But if he doesnt he will endeavor to carve out a racing career in America for himself after he gets more acquainted with Yankee methods and after learning more of the technique of the master James Fitzsimmons Quinn is a smart intelligent loyal lad and as we say has a background that few exercise boys in America can match matchIncidentally Incidentally it is no news that Bold Ruler has a different groom than Nashua but it came as a mild surprise to this corner to learn that Nashuas groom Alf Robertson is at the moment in California as as ¬ sistant trainer to Jim Conway Explains Conway Robertson is a good man and I first went to Mr Fitz and asked if he had any objections to my making Robertson an offer Mr Fitz not only didnt but went to Robertson and recommended me to him and advised him to take the job Bold Rulers groom is Snag Bitt rolff a trainer in his own right who remarks I wuldnt give up rubbing a horse like this for any train ¬ ing job in America This horse is worth more than any training job I could think of ofMolter Molter to Unveil Top Saddle Prospect ProspectStill Still another unusual item anent a Derby starter is the fact that Larry Larkin budding apprentice rider and exercise boy for Round Table is a college man having completed a year in science at the University of California in Los Angeles before he decided to try his luck as a rider Dad always wanted me to be a rider because I was small explains Lark but I wanted to get more schooling When I first came around I gave myself a year to make good or return to school The deadline was up last February And that month I rode my first horse for trainer Willie Molter at Santa Anita Now Ive given myself another year but if I cant make it Ill return to my studies at the uni ¬ versity But Japk Williams who has been training Round Table here pinch hitting for Molter interjected tab this boy as the hottest bug prospect in a long time at Hollywood Park Hes going to get every chance hes ready now and youll see him on running horses horsesRoscoe Roscoe Goose also became involved in a Derby precedent when in effect he resigned from the presid dency of the Knock Down the Favorite Club and predicted not only that Calumets entry would win this Derby but probably would run onetwo Goose has been the president of this somewhat mythical club ever since he rode Donerail to victory in the 1913 Derby Donerail was the longest priced winner in all Derby history For the last 20 years that we know of Goose has always come up with a sound horse to beat the theCff Cff ftuetf M Pgc Thirteen BETWEEN RACES RACESBy By OSCAR OTIS Continued from Page Fnra Fnrawinner winner and he scored some notable suc ¬ cesses such as Dark Star and Gallahadion GallahadionHis His refusal to pick againt Calumet this years means either he is awed by the po ¬ tential of Gen Duke and Iron Liege or else that he has mellowed a bit and will pass on the presidency to a younger man And at ¬ tention West Coasters Goose says and we quote The best Derby winner of all time was Swaps Thats taking in a lot of ter ¬ ritory but the man said it and we are printing it We hereby nominate Roscoe Goose as president of the Swaps is Tops club of California and whats more w are going to actively campaign in his behalf being a charter member and cofounder of the Swaps is Tops organization organizationA A bit of added Derby lore from Mrs Frances E Manierre of Lake Forest 111 who tells us My grandfather Col James W Guest was coowner of the tenth Derby winner Buchanan His partner was Willie Cottrell Later Mr Cottrell moved to Mobile Ala and when the horse died had him buried in the Mobile cemetery and willed that when he died he should be buried alongside his horse It was so done and horse and man lie together to this very day Yes I know but you could do things like that in the old days even though I know that today you couldnt bury a horse along with people My mother saw Buchanans Derby in 1884 and my family has followed the fortunes of the Derby since that year yearWe We are mentioning this to cite that there is a deal more sentiment attached to the Derby than the casual visitor might sus ¬ pect and wish also to cite the fine sports ¬ womans statement that even in 1884 the Derby was one of the most coveted of American races for a sportsmanowner to win Certainly it was preeminent in Ken ¬ tucky As you might imagine Mrs Manierre is a Kentuckian by birth right and she is a member of the famed Boyle family for which Boyle County was named Like many others of Kentuckys first families the lineage goes back to Virginia
