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i -, i ; - I 1? norsemen s Upmions Vary on Race Seen as Wide Open Renewal This Year Battle Morn, Big Stretch, Fanfare, Mameluke, Ruhe, Repetoire Fancied Most With the seventy - seventh Kentucky Derby regarded as the most wide open in several years, the opinions of horsemen vary considerably as to the final outcome. The majority are pinning their hopes on Battle Morn, Ruhe, Mameluke, Fanfare, Sonic, Big Stretch and Repetoire. Their opinions follow: CHURCHILL DOWNS i -, ROSCOE ROSCOE GOOSE, GOOSE, Roscoe Goose Fanfare Fanfare is is the the ho horse ROSCOE ROSCOE GOOSE, GOOSE, Louisville turfman and former rider — I like Mameluke, for he has the look of the eagles, much on the order of Doner ail. WARNER JONES, Jr., master of Hermitage Farm — The Whitney entry of Mameluke and Counterpoint looks solid to me. C. ANDRADE, III., Texas sports man — rso to +f hoot beat, Hut but if if on*7 Fanfare Fanfare is is the the ho horse rso to +f hoot beat, Hut but if if on*7 any horse turns the trick, I believe it will be Battle Morn. DUVAL HEADLEY, owner and breeder — Battle Morn will pick them up in the stretch. He really looks good. COLEMAN J. KELLY, thoroughbred statistician — Battle Morns race in the Trial was excellent and I am giving him the edge over Fanfare. — _— y HORATIO LURO, trainer— Battle Morn, shipped all the way from New York, and I do not think his trip will have been made in vain. WILLIAM S. MILLER, Illinois Racing Board member — Ruhe has the speed to avoid avoid trouble trouble and and the the avoid avoid trouble trouble and and the the Blue Grass stakes showed me he was game. HENRY FORREST, trainer — Big Stretch has class and he will go the distance. TOM GRAY, owner — Timely Reward could upset them all. Looks like he will run all day. JACK HODGINS, trainer trainer — — Counterpoint Counterpoint Tom ,om Gray wm I j trainer trainer — — Counterpoint Counterpoint Tom ,om Gray wm I j and Mameluke, the Whitney pair, has all the earmarks of being solid. i WARREN GALE DOUGLASS, trainer— 1 Sonic looks good to me and he is a well-trained colt. ] LORD GRILLO, Buenos Aires nobleman and thoroughbred breeder — Maybe Im off my rocker but Im going to take a chance on The Gink. His Derby Trial race wasnt , half bad. F. NORMAN PHELPS, California sportsman — "Ruhe looks to have a slight edge ] to me. J. HAL SELEY, California thoroughbred owner — Mameluke looked good enough in -the Blue Grass stakes to win the Derby. 1 JOE PUCKETT, trainer— Battle Morn raced by my horse in the Derby Trial and i I think he is the one to beat. i KENNETH NOE, one-time saddle star and now a trainer — Battle Morn is a mile ] I and a quarter colt. I like him. , i LLOYD GENTRY, JR., trainer— Fanfares victory in the Derby Trial stamps t him as ready for the big one Saturday. 1 I j i 1 ] , ] 1 i i ] I i t 1 JOE HARDWICK, owner— I like Mameluke off his race at Keeneland and his works are good. * JOHN F. CLARK, official— Timely Reward ran an excellent race in the Wood and I like him in the Derby. J. PRICE SALLEE, trainer — Mameluke is my choice for the Derby and I liked his Keeneland race. LARRY BOGENSHUTZ, official— Ruhe has done rather well this spring and I think he is the one to beat. CHARLES BOERO, track superintendent, Fair Grounds — Mameluke is my Derby choice. BOB SAXTON, racing official — I watched Mameluke closely in the Blue Grass Stakes and he is my Derby choice. DR. E. F. KARSTENDIEK, veterinarian — Off form and on the colts physical appearance, Timely Reward is my choice. DAN STEWART, trainer— Battle Morn finished strongly in the Trial and he is my present Derby selection. JOHN A. KINARD, owner and trainer — like Battle Morns chances off his race in the Trial. CLARENCE HARTWICK, owner and trainer — Mameluke raced well at Keeneland and I like his Derby chances. MILTON RIESER, owner and trainer — Mameluke is my colt in the Derby and I i ; - am am sure sure he he will will handle handle Harry Trotsek am am sure sure he he will will handle handle the mile and a quarter route capably. HARRY TROTSEK, owner and trainer — Sonic with Big Stretch the runner-up in Saturdays big race. ODIE CLELLAND, owner and trainer — Sonic s Keeneland race was good enough for me and I am stringing with the colt in the Derby. GARDEN STATE PARK M. C. "Ty" SHEA, Garden State Park racing secretary and handicapper — I would like to see Long Bow an entry with Sonic. Both have been training well in New York and I have a lot of respect for trainer Max Hirsch. PAUL L. KELLEY, owner and trainer— I do not have any definite selection until seeing the overnight entries, but it looks like it will be Repetoire. IRA HANFORD, jockey and winner of the 1936 Kentucky Derby with Bold Venture — Timely Reward is coming along nicely and his races are good. It will be a mad scramble, I imagine. WILLIAM E. CHARLES, Jr., secretary-treasurer of the New Jersey division of the HBPA — Battle Morn will go the distance and, with Arcaro in the tack, it is a combination that is unbeatable. MOSE SHAPOFF, trainer— Moody Jolley has been training Battle Morn with the Derby in view, and I like the way he was handled in Florida and brought up to the race. JACK SKELLY, jockey— I would like to Continued on Page Twenty-Six Marshall Marshall Cassidy Cassidy 7 *ER, owner: owner: Eddie Eddie Hirsch Hirsch Jacobs Jacobs Wide Divergence of Opinion Among Horsemen on Big Race Battle Morn, Big Stretch, ♦ ► Fanfare, Mameluke, Ruhe, ! Repetoire Fancied Most Continued from Page Twenty -Two see Pete McClain win it with Repetoire. Its | between him and Fanfare. EUGENE MORI, president of Garden 1 State Racing Association — Fanfare, the i hungry horse. I figure a hungry horse will do do his his best best like like a a hun- Walter H. Donovan do do his his best best like like a a hun- hungry fighter, and I believe that Jones is probably hungry for another Derby too. WALTER H. DONOVAN, executive vice-president and general manager of Garden State Racing Association — I will ride along with Repetoire. I like | the way he is coming | up to the race, while the the other other main main con- * the the other other main main con- * contenders seem to be slipping a little. A. "Sarge" SWENKE, trainer and for- 1 mer mentor of the great Alsab — B. A. Jones — This is the kind of a Derby he wins. If the horses abilities are close, the "old l master" will make the difference. 1 FRANK CATRONE, trainer and former jockey — Timely Reward. He is meant to go the distance. J DAVE EMERY, trainer— I like Ben Jones ! horse, Fanfare. If he runs him, he must have a chance. ! A. F. EAST, trainer— Ill pick Big Stretch. It is strictly between him and Mameluke. FIR GROSS, trainer and former jockey , -Now that Repetoire has learned how to I be rated, I will have to take him. L. T. RUFF, trainer— I like Fanfare over a poor lot. RONNIE NASH, jockey— 111 take Fanfare and Mameluke, one-two. GORDON MORROW, racing secretary 1 and official — I will have to go with Ben c Jones and Fanfare. CHARLES STEVENSON, trainer and for- J mer jockey who was the national leader t in 1935 — If that last work of Mamelukes didnt hurt him he will be a tough horse. 1 CHARLES SHAW, JR., trainer— I will try and pick it one-two, Repetoire and c Fanfare. TOM J. BARRY, trainer— I wintered in | I i ♦ ► ! | 1 i | | * — Columbia, S. C, with Hirsch, and in watching Sonic train, I believe that he can handle it. SPORTSMANS PARK BEANS REARDON, ex-National League umpire and racing enthusiast — Battle Morn has made a hit with me. Look for him to win. Phil D. has a good outside chance. ROBERT McAULIFFE, racing secretary — Think that Battle Morn will have too much power in the stretch. Look for him to get up. MARION VAN BERG, trainer— Dont believe that Big Stretch has run his best race as yet. Battle Morn is my second choice. TEDDY COX, steward— Big Stretch is my choice on a fast track arid if the going is slow, I like Fanfare. S. L. BUD JAMES, steward — Big Stretch is my selection. Think he is rounding to his best form and is the one to beat. ANTHONY SKORONSKI, jockey — My favorite is Mameluke. His race in the Blue Grass Grass Stakes Stakes im- 1 l 1 J ! ! Grass Grass Stakes Stakes im- impressed me very much. DAVE HURN, trainer — Will have to string with the Chicago horse, Ruhe. W. H. BISHOP, owner and trainer — Ruhe is my choice. He looks to be in top condition now and it will take a good horse to beat him. , DR. MARTIN KENT, Mf Jf fl state veterinarian I — w H Bsho » • • p like the Calumet sta- I , 1 c J t 1 c | I i w H Bsho » • • p like the Calumet sta- ble, meaning Fanfare. Trainer Ben Jones seems to have him fit and ready. JAMAICA FRANCIS P. Dunne, steward for the New York State Racing Commission: I like the one Arcaro is riding, Battle Morn. HOWARD HOFFMAN, trainer: Big Stretch appears best to me, but only if the track is dry and firm. EUGENE RODRIGUEZ, jockey: Battle Morn has been a hard luck horse in my opinion. Saw him run and believe he can do better. HAROLD O. VOSBURGH, steward at Jamaica : Mameluke should go the distance | and be in front at the wire because of his sire, Mahmoud. MARSHALL CASSIDY, steward for The Jockey Club: Big Stretch will get the roses if the track is fast. RUSSELL A. FIRE-STONE, owner and steward: Repetoire has done everything required of him to date and I must string along until he is beaten. A. G. VANDERBILT, owner and breeder : The " Derby? I have no ° xru J* opinion. What What opinion. do do you you Marshall Marshall Cassidy Cassidy 7 " Derby? I have no ° xru J* opinion. What What opinion. do do you you like? WILLIAM GOADBY LOWE, owner: I am taking a longshot in the dark and a lone one, Calumets Fanfare. HARRY HEIMAN, owner Apheim Stable: The Greentree Stable, either Hall of Fame or Big Stretch. COL. ABE HALLOW, widely known handicapper: Battle Morn gets my vote. Believe he can handle the weight, distance and opposition. MRS. WILLIAM J. ZIEGLER, owner: Repetoire is my choice in the race. WILLIAM J. ZIEGLER, owner and, breeder: Dont ask me, its too wide open. THOMAS J. SHAW: I like Mameluke on recent races. MAJ. ALBERT WARNER, *ER, owner: owner: Eddie Eddie Arcaro is choice Arcaro is choice my and I must take Battle Morn on those grounds. HIRSCH JABCOBS, trainer: I will string along with Battle Morn. COL. ISADOR BIE-BER, owner and breeder: The Arkansas Derby winner, Ruhe, is my choice. JOHN and GEORGE COB COB URN, URN, trainers: trainers: COB COB URN, URN, trainers: trainers: Hirsch Hirsch Jacobs Jacobs George Odom and Timely Reward is our choice. FRANK STEVENS, concessionaire: Sonic or Timely Reward. Pick one. from this pair. JOHN BARRY RYAN, owner: Keep it at Belmont Park, Timely Reward is my choice. HARRY LaMONTAGNE, owner: Very open, but I lean towards Big Stretch and Hall of Fame. T. C. MELROSE, owner: A good finisher. Timely Reward. SUFFOLK DOWNS EB PONS, racing secretary here and at Rockingham Park: I like Syl Veitchs Continued on Page Forty-Two I i__ I | ~ Wide Divergence of Opinion Among Horsemen on Big Race Battle Morn, Big Stretch, t ♦ Fanfare, Mameluke, Ruhe, Repetoire Fancied Most Continued from Page Twenty-Six Mameluke in the Derby. He was carefully trained at Hialeah this spring, and his recent trial indicates he is ready. John John C. L. Fappas Poppas eral manager of Suffolk Downs: Of the eligibles for the Derby which I have seen perform. I must select i Battle Morn. He has I been improving since Florida and the choice ■ of Eddie Arcaro to • ride him is enough to i satisfy me that he will be tough to beat. KARL HORVATH, . trainer who rode Car-tago tag0 in m 1928 1928 and and Bay Bay John John C. L. Fappas Poppas tag0 in m 1928 1928 and and Bay Bay Beauty in the 1929 Derbys: It has been a long time since C. V. Whitneys colors 1 have flashed down front in the Derby. This l may be the year for Syl Veitch to get the 1 job done with Mameluke or Counterpoint. BILL HINPHY, owner and trainer and I vice-president of Louisiana division of the ■ Horsemens Benevolent and Protective Association: I must go along with my friend. Bob McGarvey and root for Ruhe. His | J races during the spring showed him to be a Derby horse. LEO ODONNELL, steward at three New England Eneland tracks tracks: : Ma- England Eneland tracks tracks: : Ma- Mameluke worked well over the track and is very adept at handling an "off" track. These factors should make him a strong candidate for the Derby. john Mcdowell, trainer: The manner in which Timely Reward finished in the Flamingo this past winter is enough to make make me me believe believe the the Leo ueo "wnne,, ODonnell make make me me believe believe the the Leo ueo "wnne,, ODonnell mile and a quarter should be just to his liking. TOM HASKOS— Vice-president of the e England division of the Horsemens Benevolent and Protective Association and successful trainer: Since Ben Jones came up 3 t ♦ with Fanfare to win the Trial, I must ■ string along with him for the Derby. O. L. FOSTER, veteran horseman: ; Friendship of Ben Jones makes me root for him. If he runs you can bet he will have a 1 good chance. Fanfare is my choice. PIMLICO i I ■ • i . CHARLES J. MCLENNAN, racing secretary — Experimental No. 2 victory assures Sonic s class, with Max H i r s c hs confidence also a recommendation. JOHN D. MOONEY, official and rider of winning Black Gold in 1924 — Repetoire re-I minds me a lot of Black Gold and must receive my vote. JIM JIM WINKFIELD, WINKFIELD, Cnor/es Charles J. ■»■ McLennan McLennan 1 l 1 I ■ | J JIM JIM WINKFIELD, WINKFIELD, Cnor/es Charles J. ■»■ McLennan McLennan trainer and rider of consecutive Derby win-1 . ners in 1901 and 1902 — At the distance, , Battle Morn should win if he receives the e well-judged ride I expect. JOSEPH FLANAGAN, steward and j breeder of Elkridge — Big Stretch impressed i me greatly in South Carolina during the winter and Ill string along. JAMES ROSS, Sr., veteran official — If j favored by a fast track, Im for Big Stretch 1 to come through a winner. JOHN O. NEEDLES, Maryland Jockey y Club official — Sonic has shown enough in ■ recent races to rate top billing in any act. *• SIDNEY S. BROWN, racing official— J I look for Big Stretch to come through with ft his top effort. JOHN TURNER, Jr., racing secretary— - My selection is strictly for an "off" track k — Mameluke. e 3 BAY MEADOWS R. H. McDANIEL, last years leading trainer — Id like to see Phil D. win it. He | looked like a nice horse to me. W. T. WESTROPE, owner-trainer— Battle - Morns race in the Derby Trial was im-l - pressive. B. R. ROBERTS, trainer— From all I can Q learn Mameluke is the one to beat. HACK ROSS, trainer— I believe Repe-- toire is coming up to the race just right. ;. WILLIAM BUTCHER, owner and trainer r ■ ; —It looks like Calumet is eoming up with another. HARRY FIELD, owner and trainer— Its an open race, but I like Repetoire. RAY PRIDDY. owner and trainer— I think Ruhe is going to turn out to be the horse to beat. LOU MERIPOL, trainer — Put me down for Battle Morn, especially if Arcaro rides him. JACK WILLIAMS, trainer — Fanfare. Hes in the hands of a smart smart Derby Derby trainer. trainer. | ~ ; 1 smart smart Derby Derby trainer. trainer. WILLIAM P. KYNE, Bay Meadows general manager — Im doing to to pick Fanfare. If anyone can prep a Derby horse, Ben Jones can. REGGIE CORNELL, owner -trainer — Ill rely on Arcaros judgment. What he rides I like. JOE JOE COHEN, COHEN, assist- assist- William w"»om r- P. Kyne R "»e . , e JOE JOE COHEN, COHEN, assist- assist- William w"»om r- P. Kyne R "»e ant manager, Bay Meadows — Ive followed Sonic s progress and I believe he is going to be tough to beat. N. R. McLEOD, trainer— It used to be when in doubt take Bradley. Now its Calumet Farm. MANNY KELLER, Longacres general manager — It could be that Ben Jones has another Derby winner.