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Here and There on the Turf Bagenbaggages Defeat. Quality of Macaw: Lovely Manners Victory. Hudson Stakes History. Edward R. Bradleys Bagenbaggage was glorious in defeat when Joseph E. Wideners Haste journeyed from New York to Collins-ville to take his measure in the Fairmount Derby at a mile and a quarter on Saturday. It must be borne in mind that Bagenbaggage has been in training since winter time, that he won the Louisiana Derby on March 17. that he carried on brilliantly on May 15 when he finished second to his stablemate, Bubbling Over, in the Kentucky Derby at a mile and a quarter. It was the same Bagenbaggage that was the winner of the Latonia Derby at a mile and a half. These are races that tell of his sturdy and honest running and they also tell of the skill with which he has been trained and kept on edge. And that Fairmount Derby established a new track record when its distance was run in 2 :03% with Bagenbaggage only beaten by a scant margin. It must also be taken intc consideration that Haste was ridden by Ear1 Sande as against Blind on the Bradley colt Without attempting to take anything away from Blind it is natural to agree that in the matter of riders the Widener colt enjoyed 2 decided advantage. Possibly Bagenbaggage ran a greater race in the Fairmount Derby than in any of his other brilliant races. He was probably a better horse on Saturday afternoon than at any time since he took the l ouisiana Derby away back in last March. The fact that he has been kept more or less at it so brilliantly ever since tells con clusively of his toughness and the skill with which he has been campaigned. But with all the brilliance of Bagenbaggage it was surely a bit of hard luck for Mr. Bradley that Bubbling Over was not brought to the jHist for the Fairmount Derby. Those who saw both the Kentucky Derby and the Fair-mount Derby, probably to a man, will agree that there would have been a different result. Thry will agree that Bubbling her is the master of Haste, over the mile and a quarter route, so that it was only the unfortunate indisposition of the son of North Star III. and Beaming Beauty that prevented the Bradley silks from continuing the triumphal march through the 1920 Derbys. Haste and Bubbling Over will have a chance to thrash this out at Saratoga, where they both have engagements in common. But then ihore will be Carlaris and Crusader to contend with as well, so that the three year old stake-at Saratoga in August hold out promise for rare s[ ort. And while discussing three year old poasibili ties for the Saratoga meeting it might do to include Harry Payne Whitneys Macaw among the contenders for championship honors. The son of Peter Pan and Polly Hinders, by his fast galloping in the Queens County Han cheap takes an altogether new importance. Macaw had been showing enough in private to induce the belief that he could "beat any man.-horse." but he did not race to that work promise. He showed speed in some races, but attparmtly was a bit lacking in heart. He did not stick it out when hard pressed by another fast horse. The Queens County Handicap showed a different Macaw and, while that race was only a mile dash, Macaw won so easily that he seemed able to have maintained Wfl speed for a mile and a quarter, had that been the distance. And it must be remembered that under Hi pounds Macaw was giving away lumps of weight on the scale to every starter. Single Foot, winner of the Brooklyn Handicap, was in receipt of five pounds; Senalado, six pounds; Navigator, ten ; Nedana, three ; Quatrain, fifteen ; Sun Pal, twenty-one, and Mirador twenty-five and a half pounds. It will be seen that analyzing the race from the scale of weight for age it was a remarkably creditable performance. It is entirely possible that at Saratoga the best of the three-year-olds will have to reckon with Macaw. Incidentally the Queens County Handicap taught another lesson. That was a lesson on the ability of Quatrain. This four-year-old son of Omar Khayyam had done so much in the mornings that he was heralded as possibly the best of the handicap division. Then in the afternoon he would fail to leave the barrier. This so disgusted Frederick Johnson that the colt was ordered sold and he went to the Greentrce Stable. It is not known just how Vincent Powers educated Quatrain, but he left the post running Saturday. He had absolutely no mischance and after racing forwardly to the stretch quit utterly. The same race also was another evidence of the toughness of the three-year-old Navigator when he hung on to his task so gamely behind Macaw. While all this was going on Saturday at the Fairmount course and at Aqueduct, Lovely Manners was taking the measure of as good a colt as General Haldeman in the Harold Stakes, while Edward R. Bradleys Barcolo was upholding the honor of the stable by beating Rhinock in the Enquirer Handicap, at a mile and a sixteenth. And at Fort Erie Edward F. Whitneys consistent Joy Smoke was taking the feature of that opening day. True, Lovely Manners was in receipt of eight pounds fropi General Haldeman and he was helped by a bit of rough riding, but he is a colt that might readily beat the best of them when right at himself. He was probably the best at the Miami meeting and a colt that was in hard training in January and capable of winning late in June from such a colt as General Haldeman, even with the weight advantage, is worthy. As for Joy Smoke, he has been at it too lonk to need any encomiums for his victory. He shouldered 128 pounds to beat Token under 109 pounds and it was just another of the many evidences he has given from time to time of his good class. That old Hudson Stakes, which went to Witchmount at Aqueduct Saturday, is an inheritance from the Brooklyn Jockey Club and the Gravesend track. It ha* a truly interesting history and was first run away back in 1887, when it was won by King Fish, bearing the colors of the Dwyer Bros.. Phillip J. and Mike When Witchmount came home winner it marked the third victory for H. P. Whitney, while his illustrious father, the late Col. William C. Whitney, was winner of the 1900 race with Prince Charles. The other H. P. Whitney winners besides Witchmount were Tumbler in 1916. Transmute in 1923 and Elf in 1924. Last year the Hudson Stakes fell to Robert L. Gerrys Sarmaticus, winner of the Toboggan Handicap of this year. When Nedana could only finish third to" Macaw after suffering all sorts of misfortune in the running of the race it broke up a run of victories in the Queens County Handicap for the Rancocas Stable. In 1922, 1923, 1924 and 1925 that race was taken by S. C. Hil-dreth for the Rancocas Stable. Th? winners in their order were Grey Laj. Zev. Mad Hatter and Mad Play. Each was a champion of his day and it would be hard to find four better horses in any raring establishment of any time. This year Hildreth ha« no such horses for the handicaps and, on top of that, hi? stable has been seriously handicapped for a consider able time by reason of sickness. Now the horsrs are coming back and it is hoped that by he time the Saratoga meeting is reached the. white with green trimmings will again take a much more important place on the turf.