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+ , 3 ■ _ • y . j e t e y a a a a d ,s y to i •t "_ [Z e :s he L*r . V. rr h 1 _ , . _ ," . I of • r ,," .- if if .* on . , . " . of L. L 1 an an an 1 the _, of , . Trainers of Derby Candidates Heard Dozen Conditioners Give Opinions on Their Charges At Annual Dinner of KTBA By BOB HORWOOD Staff Correspondent LOUISVILLE, Ky., May 2.— Roscoe Goose, who rode the longest-priced winner of the Kentucky Derby when he guided T. P. Hayes Donerail to triumph in 1913, heckled more than a dozen conditioners of candidates for this years "Run for the Roses into expressing a reasonably candid opinion of their chances at last nights Kentucky Thoroughbred Breeders Association dinner. The function was held at the Brown Hotel, attended by somewhat more than 300 owners, breeders, newspaper writers and trainers, with Senator Tom Underwood, Ky.. the guest of honor. Senator Underwood spoke at great length, extolling the sport of horse racing, which he said must be kept alive regardless of the world situation and reached a high note when he said: "theres a great day acoming — Derby day." Goose reminded Ben A. Jones that couple of years ago, when Fanfare was yearling, he had told him he was a good horse and would be trained like one. Jones admitted this in part, but sideswiped by saying. "I thought you were talking about Coaltown." Coaltown is a half-brother the Derby Trial winner. Jones, who wasnt too high on the 1950 Derby winner. Ponder, also said, "If I had really liked Fanfare, Arcaro w 5uld be riding him, and hes another man with good judgment who doesnt like him However, I was pleased with his race today, though I dont think I have much of a chance in the Derby." Jones was not too high on the chances of Whirl -away. Pensive and Ponder, though even couldnt find a knock against Lawrin and Citation. Kalensky Called On First The first trainer Goose introduced was Elmer Kalensky, who will saddle Spur On for George Gerber. Kalensky was appropriately modest, pointing out that this was his first Derby try, while other conditioners had made 15 to 30 attempts. Syl Veitch, who will probably saddle Mameluke and Counterpoint for C. Whitney, sounded just like a trainer when he said, "Ill feel Im lucky if Im fourth with one them." Veitch sent out Mr. Trouble to be third, behind Middleground and Hill Prince last year. He also had something to say about, "those big, powerful New York horses." Moody Jolley, who may saddle the starting favorite in Cain Hoy Stables Battle Morn, confessed that he was pleased with the colts fast-finishing fourth in the Derby Trial and added that he was satisfied that the distance and the possibility mud wont hurt on Saturday. The weather forecast, incidentally, is for a fast track. John Gaver, who will saddle Big Stretch and Hall of Fame for Greentree Stable the track is fast, and only Hall of Fame it is wet. came in for some ribbling from Goose for having put Eddie Arcaro Devil Diver the day he won with Shut Out. Gaver remarked that the trials of the two colts on -a dry track influenced him, and added that subsequent races indicated that Devil Diver probably was the better three -year-old. After Goose had remined Max Hirsch his successes in the Derby with Morton Schwartz Bold Venture and King Ranchs Assault and Middleground, he applied invisible scalpel in an attempt to get opinion of Sonic. Hirsch said, "Hes honest old plugger," which isnt exactly way most who have seen the son of Blue Larkspur-Split Second would describe him, particularly after his race in the Blue Grass in which he went to the front, then tried to make the lead cover the width the track. Hirsch added, however, "I think hell run a good race, wet or dry." Snuzzle Big Horse in Derby Joe Puckett, who trains The Gink and id Snuzzle for J. Graham Brown, who was as present along with owners Harry Guggenheim i- and Jack Amiel, surprised the folks ks slightly when he said "I was really pleased id with The Ginks race in the Trial," he le finished a reasonably close fifth, then ;n added, "but he isnt our big horse. Snuzzle le is the one well start on Saturday." Snuzzle le won an overnight race at Keeneland last st Thursday. E. C. Dobsdh, who plans to saddle Any-old V- time and Sir Bee Bum for William m Peavey, said: "Im going to have a long ig and serious talk with those two colts tomorrow a- morning and I have a notion that at I can make them run the way I think they ;y are capable of running. Of course, races es are not in the mind, but Im going to try. y. I hope Logan Batcheller will ride one of of them, but I havent any boy yet for the le other." George "Slim" Sully, had little to say about Jack Amiels Count Turf, pointing lg out that he was only pinch-hitting for Sol. . id as i- ks id he le ;n le le st V- m ig a- at ;y es try. y. of of the le say lg . Rutchick, who would be here on Derby f Day. Jimmy Jordan, who will saddle Phil I D. for W. C. Martin, merely confirmed the ; fact that the "Colorado Whirlwind" will 1 be a starter and added that he believed he ; would run better for Ray York than he does for Jordan in the mornings, Al Jensen and Bob McGarvey, who have s the Derby horses with the best public rec- . ords this year, were present. Jensen ! scarcely leaves Mrs. Nora Mikells Repetoire B for an instant, while McGarvey is in almost as close attendance on Mrs. Emil 1 Denemarks Ruhe. Bill Corum, who succeeded the late Col. Matt Winn as president of Churchill 1 Downs, presided over most of the festivi- . ties, introducing the press with pleasant t words and any names, as well as such ! Downs officials as W. H. Veeneman, Rus- . sell Sweeney, Tom Young, Stanley Hugen- berg, Brownie Leach and Louis J. Herr-ly . man. Mr. Corums decorum equalled his s brevity, both being the right side of peril . fection.
